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Post by quazi on Feb 13, 2016 11:05:30 GMT
I hate them with a vengeance, which is why I now try to avoid anything to do with them mechanically, when once upon a time I would have happily dived in.  Disaster has struck this morning on the wife's car, it's been difficult to start lately which I suspected to be the dying glow plugs as it's had a few things already this year, so I know other parts to be good. Dreaded the job to be honest and I've just proved myself right, 2 hours getting to them, then 3 came out and as is the way with things of multiples 1 of them was tight. It was so tight I had to go shot or bust with it, well it bust! The strange thing is, the tip has snapped off not the body of the glow plug, so the tip must have fused itself to the head in situ. I am now left with a totally fucked car with 130k on the clock, a dilemma of is it fucking worth it, or do I now attempt the take the fucking head off bearing in mind it's a diesel so will be an absolute cunt of a job. Slightly weed off at this very moment in time! |
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Post by bluedog59 on Feb 13, 2016 12:44:37 GMT
If the car is near the end of it's viable life, can you get away with running just 3 new glow plugs ? (presuming the broken one is still sealing the hole)
It's a bodge but if it keeps it going.
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Post by quazi on Feb 13, 2016 15:07:03 GMT
If the car is near the end of it's viable life, can you get away with running just 3 new glow plugs ? (presuming the broken one is still sealing the hole) It's a bodge but if it keeps it going. Funny you should say that bud.  What's strange is (to me anyway) is only the tip has remained in there not the body of the plug, aparently it's more common than we think. They just get so clogged up around the hole it grips on the way out and shears it off. Been speaking to one of my mates who is well versed in the art of motor vehicles.  he said pretty much the same thing. Leave it in there, drive it around for a while and keep an ear out if it pops out on its own, as they generally do, if not plug the fucking hole up and leave it in there, don't worry about it. Three new glow plugs should get it started, so go with that. Now that is my kind of thinking. ha ha... Thanks though Bluedog, you obviously have a great mind "think alike" nature. To be fair to the car, it's been a bloody good motor, she just hasn't looked after it all its life and now paying the price for it. To be fair again though, it has 130k on the clock, never had anything wrong with it until it hit the 100k mark then a clutch, fuel pump, crank pulley, idle pulley, still nothing too drastic as a fault but enough to park it up and cost money. Suzuki Vitara XL7 1.9 Diesel, has had a hard life, mud shit and dogs but has done its work and still limps along everyday. |
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Post by paddy on Feb 13, 2016 15:26:56 GMT
When you said it hit 100k and then this that etc I thought you were going to say it was a pre 02 e46 3 series lol. But the issues were not a bmw thing though.
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Post by Rgstu on Feb 14, 2016 9:15:45 GMT
Yep I too hate cars even simple things like brake pads bring problems like yesterday I went to change the rears I took the caliper off only to find it's a Bastid piston that needs rewound in  now I have to buy a rewind kit !!!!! |
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Post by quazi on Feb 15, 2016 18:53:33 GMT
It continues. Started up once yesterday now won't start at all. Turns over perfectly, no attempt to fire up at all. This is a right fucking ball ache at the moment, time and weather is not on my side to feck about with this thing. I just ain't got the time to sort out if it's fuel of electrical at the moment, I'm off all of next week because of my sons car potentially failing its mot then I'll have some time to do some work on it for him. Now you know why I've not touched a bike for ages, life keeps kicking me squarely in the bollocks at the moment.   Ha ha. |
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Post by bigkenxx on Feb 15, 2016 19:40:43 GMT
Ball bags check the run stop on the pump
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Post by gsexr on Feb 16, 2016 21:35:45 GMT
Yep I too hate cars even simple things like brake pads bring problems like yesterday I went to change the rears I took the caliper off only to find it's a Bastid piston that needs rewound in now I have to buy a rewind kit !!!!! And some are left handed thread ? when you wind them back........ remove your handbrake cable before winding the piston back then re fit it and use the handbrake too pump the piston back out  More drug,s please......  |
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Post by quazi on Feb 17, 2016 18:44:26 GMT
This weekend I shall be mostly arse-ing about with this continuing pain of a motor vehicle.  |
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Post by bigkenxx on Feb 17, 2016 19:02:42 GMT
Ha ha he was a pisser
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Post by Rgstu on Feb 17, 2016 21:23:43 GMT
I made the mistake of leaving my sandwich bag in my Astra a couple o yrs ago for about a week when I went to get the bag it was empty ? Which was unusual as I had stuff in it A fucking yard rat ate into my Astra and made its home in the rear quarter Bastid thing |
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Post by gsexr on Feb 18, 2016 17:53:38 GMT
I had my dad,s stag [car] in my lockup for yrs.... Then he thought he would take it home and fix it? ha ha ha mice had made it there home seat,s dash wiring loom and the air filter,s as well................  |
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Post by quazi on Feb 20, 2016 11:31:04 GMT
Well despite the howling winds, single digit temps, on and off rain, being the trooper that I am  I thought I'd give this suzuki a damn good seeing too. I forgot I had  an OBD scan tool that I used on my van years ago, plugged it in and flagged up 2 codes, EGR Valve and Glow plug failure on cylinder 2, well we knew that because it's disconnected. Anyway, I reset the faults and connected up the forth glow plug just to test the relay was working ok. Glow plug heated up nicely on the turn of the key each time i tried it, so that confirmed the gp relay was good. Disconnected me test methods and turned the key and the bastard started! Which is obviously a good thing, but I still can't be sure what caused it to lock itself out. It would be unusual for and EGR fault to lock it out from starting, it can send it into "limp mode" but never heard of it as a non starter fault. So she'll now have to use it and see where we go from here. I'll see how it starts in the morning cold, and monitor it as it gets used through the week. So far, I'm happy that it's running again at least for now. (I know I should be punished for posting about a car on this forum.) |
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Post by gsexr on Feb 21, 2016 10:01:22 GMT
 it,s the stuff we have too do...... and by getting it off your chest you feel better.... |
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Post by quazi on Feb 28, 2016 18:51:20 GMT
There's been a development. Ha ha... I think I've finally found the fooking problem with this motor, there is a vacuum operated actuator which is nicely located behind the engine against the firewall/bulkhead, I was having a good nosey around there this morning and happened to notice a broken plastic rod. It then took me three hours of stripping things out and swearing to get the offending article in hand to see what was what. It is called a "Vacuum operated inlet swirl flap adjuster" ha ha, a mouthful. Apparently, it operates a series of flaps through the inlet manifold (common on diesels) I have no depth of knowledge on diesels, I'm learning something new everyday, but it definitely has something to do with the starting circuit and possibly temperature related too. 
The plastic cup/ball joint snapped off, so off to Suzuki for a replacement part during the week, so my next weekend is already taken up with putting it all back together.
Deep joy. 
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he said pretty much the same thing. Leave it in there, drive it around for a while and keep an ear out if it pops out on its own, as they generally do, if not plug the fucking hole up and leave it in there, don't worry about it. Three new glow plugs should get it started, so go with that.
now I have to buy a rewind kit !!!!!
